CONSCIENCE- AND COMMUNICATION-(R)EVOLUTION

GIVERS-MOVEMENT AND REAL-UTOPIA IS MAINLY A CONSCIENCE- AND COMMUNICATION-PROJECT OR A CONSCIENCE- AND COMMUNICATION-(R)EVOLUTION!
So: Let us intensify the communication!
I think, it is time, to intensify again the communication of Givers-Movement, as we already had it some years ago, with a daily „Givers-Chat“, and with the offer of several boards with different functions…  Nowadays even with a special board for „working-groups-communication“, inside the working-groups and to the outside world…I copy in here the introduction, which I put in front of the „Givers-Chat“ at holistic-love.net:chat

INTRODUCTION TO THE GIVERS-CHAT / VORBEMERKUNG ZUM SCHENKER-CHAT
((ERST AUF ENGLISCH, DANN AUF DEUTSCH:))

What are we thinking and speaking about, from morning to evening? Higher or lower things? How much reason, spirit, soul, ideals, dimensions of responsibility?
And those, who call themselves already ‚idealistic‘ or ‚alternativ‘: How much do we ask – regarding things in connection – what has more or less importance — or consume aspects, as we like?

FOR BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT ÖFF ÖFF AND „GIVERS-MOVEMENT“ PLEASE LOOK AT FIRST AT www.global-love.eu… (SO THAT YOU DO NOT NEED TO ASK QUESTIONS, WHICH ARE ALREADY ANSWERED THERE…)
IT CAN ALSO BE USEFUL TO TAKE A LOOK INTO THE DIFFERENT BOARDS, WE OFFER (WHICH ARE BETTER FOR CONTINUOUS LINES OF THOUGHT THAN A CHAT; IF ÖFF ÖFF DOES NOT ANSWER QUICKLY, INFORM HIM BY E-MAIL):
1. A BOARD („GIVERS-E-BOARD“), WHICH IS VERY OPEN FOR ALL SORTS OF POSTINGS, EMOTIONAL OR ‚CRITICAL‘ ETC.; FOR BEST-POSSIBLE ORIENTATION IN THAT BOARD YOU CAN BEGIN AT http://waldesrauschen.phpbb8.de/interview-von-elbin-mit-of…/
2. A BOARD („GIVERS-A-BOARD“), WHICH IS MEANT AS A COLLECTION OF SERIOUS INFORMATION, WHICH IS PROVED OR AT LEAST IS OPEN TO BE PROVED, AND WHERE CONFLICT-POSITIONS ARE OPEN FOR MEDIATION ETC.: www.forum.global-love.eu
3. A BOARD („GIVERS-WORKING-GROUP-BOARD“), WHICH IS MEANT FOR WORKING-GROUPS FOR THEIR INNER AND OUTSIDE COMMUNICATION: http://schenkerbewegung.phpbb8.de
ÖFF ÖFF TRIES TO BE IN THIS CHAT HERE EVERY DAY FROM 20 TO 21 PM…
IF THIS DOES NOT FUNCTION, PLEASE USE FOR CONTACT:
schenker_oeff@yahoo.de OR +4915785065676
BE WELCOME TO OUR CHAT NEARLY EVERY DAY FROM 8 PM UNTIL 9 PM, IN DEUTSCH/GERMAN OR ENGLISH OR FRENCH/FRANCAISE…
IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE CHAT WITH YOUR SMARTPHONE:
A POSSIBLE APP IS FOR EXAMPLE „TurboIRC 2015“, WHERE YOU CAN REGISTER WITH THE FOLLOWING DATA:
NAME: IRC
ADRESS: irc.iz-small.net
ROOM: #schenkerchat
IN THE APP, I CLICKED THE RED BUTTON AT THE RIGHT BOTTOM TWO TIMES, WROTE THE NAME OF THE CHAT AND ITS ADRESS AND MY NICK AT THE SITE, WHICH OPENED, THEN CLICKED RETURN, AND THEN I CLICKED AT THE INDICATED ‚ADRESS-ROOM‘, AND WAS ASKED TO WRITE THE CONCRETE CHAT-ROOM – AND SO FINALLY I ARRIVED IN THE CHAT…

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((NUN AUF DEUTSCH:))

SCHENKER-BEWEGUNG UND REAL-UTOPIA IST VOR ALLEM EIN BEWUSSTSEINS- UND KOMMUNIKATIONS-PROJEKT BZW. EINE BEWUSSTSEINS- UND KOMMUNIKATIONS-(R)EVOLUTION!
Deshalb:
Intensivierung der Kommunikation!

Die Zeit ist reif, das Niveau der Informations-Flüsse mal wieder zu intensivieren, wie wir es in Schenker-Bewegung vor ein paar Jahren schonmal hatten, mit täglichem abendlichem „Schenker-Chat“, und mit einem Angebot mehrerer funktionaler Foren… Nun sogar erstmals mit einem „Arbeitsgruppen(AG)-Forum“…

Ich kopiere Euch die Einleitung hierher, welche auf www.holistic-love.net dem „Schenker-Chat“ voransteht:

 

VORBEMERKUNG ZUM SCHENKER-CHAT

Womit beschäftigen wir uns von morgens bis abends, worüber reden wir? Wie sehr Höheres oder Niedrigeres? Wie sehr Geistiges, Idealistisches, Verantwortungs-Dimensionen?
Und die, die sich schon „idealistisch“ oder „alternativ“ nennen: Wie sehr fragen wir uns – im Zusammenhang betrachtet – was wie wichtig ist — oder suchen uns nach Gefallen was aus (Konsum)? ——-
Warum für Niedrigeres leben, wenn mensch auch fürs Höchste leben kann!

FÜR GRUND-INFORMATIONEN ÜBER ÖFF ÖFF UND „SCHENKER-BEWEGUNG“ SCHAUT BITTE ERST AUF www.global-love.eu… (SO DASS IHR KEINE FRAGEN ZU STELLEN BRAUCHT, DIE DORT SCHON BEANTWORTET SIND…)
ES KANN AUCH NÜTZLICH SEIN, EINEN BLICK IN UNSERE VERSCHIEDENEN FOREN ZU WERFEN, DIE WIR ANBIETEN (WELCHE BESSER SIND FÜR ZUSAMMEN-HÄNGENDE GEDANKEN-FÄDEN ALS EIN CHAT; WENN ÖFF ÖFF NICHT SCHNELL ANTWORTET, INFORMIERT IHN PER EMAIL):
1. EIN FORUM („SCHENKER-E-FORUM“), WELCHES SEHR OFFEN IST FÜR ALLE MÖGLICHEN POSTINGS, EMOTIONAL ODER ‚KRITISCH‘ ETC.; ZUR BEST-MÖGLICHEN ORIENTIERUNG IN DEM FORUM BIETET SICH ALS BEGINN AN: http://waldesrauschen.phpbb8.de/interview-von-elbin-mit-of…/
2. EIN FORUM („SCHENKER-A-FORUM“), WELCHES ALS SAMMLUNG SERIÖSER INFORMATION GEMEINT IST, WELCHE ENTWEDER GEPRÜFT IST ODER ZUMINDEST BEREIT IST FÜR ÜBERPRÜFUNG, UND WO KONFLIKT-STANDPUNKTE OFFEN FÜR MEDIATION ETC. SEIN MÜSSEN: http://forum.global-love.eu
3. EIN FORUM („SCHENKER-ARBEITSGRUPPEN(AG)-FORUM“), WELCHES FÜR ARBEITS-GRUPPEN GEDACHT IST, FÜR IHRE INNERE UND ÄUSSERE KOMMUNIKATION: http://schenkerbewegung.phpbb8.de

ÖFF ÖFF VERSUCHT HIER IN DIESEN CHAT TÄGLICH VON 20-21 UHR ZU KOMMEN… WENN DAS NICHT FUNKTIONIERT, BITTE KONTAKT VERSUCHEN ÜBER:
schenker_oeff@yahoo.de ODER +4915785065676

HERZLICH WILLKOMMEN ALSO ZU UNSEREM CHAT, WELCHER FAST TÄGLICH VON 20-21 UHR ZUR VERFÜGUNG STEHEN SOLL, FÜR GESPRÄCHE AUF DEUTSCH ODER ENGLISCH ODER FRANZÖSISCH…

FALLS JEMAND DEN CHAT MIT DEM SMARTPHONE BESUCHEN MÖCHTE:
EINE MÖGLICHE APP IST Z.B. „TurboIRC 2015“, WO MAN SICH MIT FOLGENDEN DATEN EINTRAGEN KANN:

NAME: IRC

ADRESSE: irc.iz-small.net
CHAT-RAUM: #schenkerchat
NACH DEM ÖFFNEN DER APP KLICKTE ICH ZWEIMAL AUF DEN ROTEN BUTTON RECHTS UNTEN, SCHRIEB AUF DER DADURCH GEÖFFNETEN SEITE DEN NAMEN DES CHATS UND DIE ADRESSE UND MEINEN NUTZER-NAMEN, UND KLICKTE DANACH AUF ‚ZURÜCK‘, UND DANN AUF DEN ANGEZEIGTEN ‚ADRESSEN-RAUM‘, UND WURDE DANN NOCH GEFRAGT, DEN KONKRETEN CHAT-RAUM EINZUTRAGEN, WONACH ICH SCHLIESSLICH TATSÄCHLICH IM CHAT ANKAM…

2016 – The ‚Real-Utopia‘-project continues – as central activity of our „Movement for Holistic Sustainability“…

It has been some work
a.) to create a practical-life-frame at the ‚wild‘ real-utopia-place near the city Marburg…
b.) to form a solidarity-group, for example in order to negotiate with neighbours, officials of the city, critics and so on… ; the project is now connected with a NGO and with the start of several neighbourhood- and community-projects around it…
c.) start public documentation of the project, take part in some events etc…

In order to get more information:
1.) you can have a look at our central (distribution-)website of „Schenkers-Movement“/“Givers- or Gift-Movement“(„Movement for Holistic Sustainability“): www.global-love.eu (with English and German text)…
2.) there are articles in the German Wikipedia and (with more details) in Pluspedia… ; in these articles news shall be integrated in future…
3.) about the concrete development in the base-camp near Marburg you can look at www.real-utopia.de …  (Sorry, this is in German…)

Namaste.
Öff Öff (alias Jürgen Wagner)
schenker_oeff@yahoo.de
015785065676

Welcome to our international website for „Schenker- or Schenk-Bewegung“(„Givers- or Gift-Movement“)

DEAR ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLE!

++WE  WELCOME YOU TO OUR ENGLISH WEBSITE http://www.holistic-love.net ++
++ A „SCHENKER-CHAT“ CAN BE ENTERED HERE EVERY EVENING AT 20 h ++

Oeffie (Öff Öff), founder of the „Schenkers (Givers- or Gift-)Movement (GiM)“
(schenker_oeff@yahoo.de ; 017627110248 )

We also have already some english threads in our board:
http://www.forum.global-love.eu/viewforum.php?f=15 ,
and one in our „Schenkers-Blog“:
http://dieschenker.wordpress.com/englishfrancais/

And there is an english introduction-video on our youtube-channels „Lilitopia“ and „Öff Öff Jürgen Wagner“ (- the video is also part of this website here, see above… -)

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AND AN INTERNATIONAL NET OF MONEYFREE PERSONS (Lifestyle Gift-Economists) IS DEVELOPPING:
http://www.moneyless.info  or
http://wiki.gifteconomy.org/wiki/Lifestyle_Gift_Economists

 

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Some words for introduction…

In the last year, our „Schenker- or Schenk-Bewegung(SB)“(„Donators-, Givers- or Gift-Movement(GiM)“), which has begun in 1991 (at the 19th of december), has had it’s 20th birthday…
Until now we have had mostly german texts and german websites.
In 2011 I began a new ‚central-website‘ for GiM, www.global-love.eu …
Why did we need a new central website? – Because of the extreme ’no‘ to violence and private property in GiM, our ‚center-group‘, the so-called „Schenkers“/“Givers“, don’t buy anything, don’t have any private property, and don’t use any violent controls…
A consequence is, that they have to rely on the moral correctness of other human beings, for example if an information-website about GiM shall be made…
Several websites have been lost during the years, because this correctness did not function sufficiently (for example we lost www.die-schenker.de and www.die-schenker.net ; still functioning is my blog www.dieschenker.wordpress.com )…
But, on the other hand, if we go this way of trusting, in the end it becomes clear, with which persons such correctness does(!) function, even in ‚existential‘ matters…   This means to have more riches than milliardaires!

But because of the explained ‚problems of stability‘ it is useful for the Givers ‚to stand on several legs‘, what means for example, that two or three web-addresses are better than one…
I am very happy, that holistic-love.net has been offered to me as one such ‚leg‘, especially as an international website, in english…

I will write some english texts onto this website from time to time, when it makes sense…

And I invite you to have a look into our „Schenkers-/Givers-Board“, where we have a place for english information and discussion (for writing in the board, it is necessary to contact schenker_oeff@yahoo.de ):
http://www.forum.global-love.eu/viewforum.php?f=15

Öff Öff (Oeffie)   [alias Jürgen Wagner]
schenker_oeff@yahoo.de or schenker.oeff@holistic-love.net
017627110248
www.global-love.eu
www.holistic-love.net
www.dieschenker.wordpress.com

Yoga and my life on earth by Uwe W. Haspel

Wildpflanzenführung im Friedensgarten

Here I have summarized my thoughts about my recent development mainly with the perspective „my role in the physical world including economy and politics“. My „earthbound“ physical way is in some aspects extraordinary, otherwise as normal. More and more I make the experience that it is helpful telling other people about it – because I trust in you – and so you have the possibility to understand me better and you get to know me from another perspective. So I decided to write you these things.

My recent history: After many years I reached a situation as I longed for a long time ago, and I want to share it with you: Uncountable dark and bitter hours I spent in my “former life”, didn´t know what was going on, why I suffered so much. I had great pain in my heart. Feeling often very lonesome and lost, suffered from great fears and tried to understand these phenomenons. I asked myself where I find my sisters and brothers and

how I come in contact with them. Now I have found the solution rather direct. Like a gift I recognized one of my main tasks in life in the last days. Now I realize how important it is for me to serve with my life mankind and earth, the bigger system in which I am born into. Since eight years I am engaging in the “Schenkerbewegung = Givers Movement” and have done very much to be example with my life for a life with sustainment and love. In January 2010 I have locked my passport and made no more use of it since then. Because of my conscience in March 2011 I quitted officially the membership in the “Bundesrepublik Deutschland” and declared the political and economical independence – standing on my own feet and in GODs hands. Now I engage where I can for a system on the basement of love. I feel very much relief that I can let behind the time where I was a quiet supporter of the BRD. It is crystal clear for me, that this path is very important for me, even if I have many other fears now ( being isolated, with lack of shelter and help from other people), but I trust in GODs leadership and love. In the normal society I see no support. Therehttp://www.holistic-love.net/wp-admin/media-upload.php?post_id=132&type=image&TB_iframe=1 I see the people mainly dealing with sorrows, material possession and inferior pleasures, partly also with material and social fears of existence. I see my place near people who are developing a healthy social, political and economical structure and who are keeping constantly in mind and attention also the welfare of the bigger systems in which we are born in and which are also support for us, the “cells of a bigger organism”. For example this means for me to support also the love and the attentiveness for mother nature and earth. If you like it then I tell you from time to time news about my life, also I am glad to hear news from you and if we may have an empathic exchange, get to know each other better in the main aspects. May 2011 is for me like being newborn. Also I feel much more at home in Pommritz in the „Friedensgarten = Peace Garden“, the small community where I am living, like never before. Andreas, who joined in January the project, and I are bringing many things into order and make it more beautiful – so that we develop more „flowers and fruits“ in another level of life. This year I planned three more classes for people from the region to get to know “wild herbs for nutrition, medical purpose and other use in household”, also two days where we want to present the work of our “association for the support of giving with love and without condition”. Since April we have a blackboard in front of the house with written information and photos about us, so we show more about us as a possible example, also as a possible object for critics and attacs. I am also taking part in events outside like the “Kirchentag in Dresden – meeting of the groups standing next to the protestant church”, also regional and germanwide events with the subject of sustainment in life (in all perspectives – ecological, social, political, economical , creative and spiritual. In Dresden we had a place at the entrance of the area and some posters and flyers, in which we wrote about love as fundament of political, economical and social life. We also distributed small presents, self made out of natural material like small angels out of raw sheep wool (before made to a thread), seeds of blossoming plants and beautiful slides of wood (like coins) and came to talk with many people about or activities and aims and the situation in society. We also had contact with members of other groups there and learnt about their activities (“Arche”-movement, Quakers). In Marburg we offered workshops about communication, conflict solution and agreement in “consensus” (the aim of finding solutions in a group without anyone giving pressure – it may be that there are people, who are against the decision, but they agree, not to work against the decision, but to stay quiet and peaceful, because they feel respected), also about singing, tuning and making music for social contact and resonance (also songs of universal peace). My role now I consider like this: if I realize, that other people have resignation, dullness, coolness, lazyness or fear, I tell again and again other people what I feel I have to say in thia very moment and tell them about my belief and experiences, if I feel that the other people are open for it. So I am doing the service of confronting my own resignation and my own fears, and I am training to develop my courage and my trust in GOD. My exercise is like Martin Luther said “If I feared that tomorrow the world would no more exist, nevertheless today I planted an apple tree…” and I trust in GOD that he/she knows whether there shall be fruits and which the results will be. My exercise is furthermore humility, being an instrument of GODs will. Also I am training to fulfill my task well, to grow energetically and to gain more clarity, to behave self confident when meeting other people and to be prepared that I might also meet resistance and suffering, naturally trusting in GODs company and shelter. So now I know much more, how important it is for me, that I am sharing with other people my contribution for a possible healing on this planet earth, and that I am doing this crystal clear, and that on the other hand I am as humble as a person who may have absolutely no success with his actions (as seen from outside) and who leaves the result totally to GOD. This task is very high for me, because I have to work very hard to deal with my egoism and my wishful thinking. I really would like to be a man who “changes other people to get better” and who helps for the salvation of the world. I train to completely give up these thoughts and wishes. Now I told you many things about my very important inner thoughts. They are fundamentally important for my ability of living like that. Naturally I consecrate all of my way to GOD. Out of myself I would not be able to live like that.

I hope you understand what I am telling. For this reason I am writing so frankly about these things. It is very precious for me if you answer me frankly and if we stay in loving and trustful contact (uwewhaspel@yahoo.de). Also I am planning to organize that meetings of groups of people, which have the same or very similar aims, can take place – I consider this as also very precious, maybe, you are also taking part there.

Cordially greetings from

Uwe

Friedensgarten
Pommritz 5c
02627 Hochkirch